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Old 01-20-2008, 07:34 AM
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creative control has always been a stickler in these negotiations....I think at this point the prospect of having your fights on network tv, possibly primetime on a weeknight with little competition because of the writer's strike would far outweigh them losing their creative control on production, plus it'll make it seem like a bigger deal....I somewhat agreed with their stance when it came to HBO, but now I think UFC should pull the trigger and get this CBS deal done...
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Old 01-20-2008, 03:46 PM
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Tentative cards for UFC 82 and UFC 84:

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UFC 82
-Anderson Silva v. Dan Henderson
-Cheick Kongo v. Heath Herring
-Dustin Hazelett v. Josh Koscheck
-Andrei Arlovski v. Jake O'Brien
-Diego Sanchez v. Roan Carneiro
-Luke Cummo v. Luigi Fioravanti
-Jorge Gurgel v. John Halverson
-Jon Fitch v. TBA

UFC 84
-George St. Pierre v. Matt Serra
-Yushin Okami v. Evan Tanner
-Sam Stout v. Rich Clementi
-Jonathan Goulet v. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
-Mark Bocek v. Mac Danzig
-Jason MacDonald v. Joe Doerksen
-Rich Franklin v. Travis Lutter
-Patrick Cote v. TBA
-Shogun Rua v. TBA
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:16 PM
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creative control has always been a stickler in these negotiations....I think at this point the prospect of having your fights on network tv, possibly primetime on a weeknight with little competition because of the writer's strike would far outweigh them losing their creative control on production, plus it'll make it seem like a bigger deal....I somewhat agreed with their stance when it came to HBO, but now I think UFC should pull the trigger and get this CBS deal done...
I think that during the writers strike, creative control is even MORE important.

All CBS wants is a cheap filler show till the writers come back. They may not be looking for UFC to stick around.

UFC won't want to risk CBS doing typical broadcast crap to the show. Like, if it was on in primetime, CBS wouldn't want to show a really bloody fight. The FCC would have a field day. So CBS would either show the fight with long shots (to make the blood seem minor) or cut to more crowd shots (making the fight boring for fight fans).

Good MMA is way too bloody for broadcast TV now-a-days, not to mention that MMA fighters got a major case of potty-mouth. Too many complaints would come rolling in and the FCC would fine the hell outta CBS and UFC.
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Tentative cards for UFC 82 and UFC 84:
Dana announced after UFC 80 these tentative match-ups for the may PPV card

UFC May24th Las Vegas
BJ Penn vs Sean Sherk
Tito Ortiz vs Lyoto Machida (if tito signs the fight)
Rashad Evans vs Thiago Silva (Rumored)

UFC June (Probably early june so they can have another card at the end of the month)
In London at O2 Arena
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:59 AM
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Is UFC 84 definitely taking place in Canada?

(Serra will get some major heat, lol)
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:20 PM
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Tito accepts fight with Machida

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Disrespected “Bad Boy” Lashes Out at UFC, Confirms May Bout with Machida

By Loretta Hunt (loretta@thefightnetwork.com)

Another UFC champion is speaking out against the promotion he once called home.

In an interview on Sirius’ Fight Network Radio on Monday, a disgruntled Tito Ortiz cited money as a primary point of contention with Zuffa LLC, the Las Vegas-based promotion that purchased the mixed martial arts’ brand in early 2001 and turned it into a multi-million dollar industry over the next five years.

“They don’t want the fighters to get as big as a “Tyson” or a “De La Hoya” or one of those types because all of a sudden, they’ll be expecting to see a lot more payment,” said Ortiz. “The UFC makes about 99% of the money and the rest goes to the fighters. That 1% aint nothing compared to what they makie on merchandising, on pay-per-view, and everything else they make around the world.”

Ortiz is not the only marquee fighter to take Zuffa to task. UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture resigned from the organization on Oct. 11, citing compensation and poor treatment within the company as his main motivations. Couture walked away from his title, two contracted fights, and a seperate employment contract for commentating and promotional duties. Zuffa filed suit with Couture last Monday for breach of his employment contract.

The polarizing former UFC light heavyweight champion confirmed he will face Lyoto Machida at a UFC event on Saturday, May 24 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The bout will satisfy the final fight on his UFC contract.

Expecting a rematch with “The Ultimate Fighter 2” winner Rashad Evans, Ortiz (15-5-1) says he begrudgingly accepted the bout with the Japanese-Brazilian (12-0) fighter who toppled PRIDE sensation Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou with a second-round submission at UFC 79 “Nemesis” on Dec. 29 in Las Vegas.

“I was expecting a bigger fight. I think the fans were expecting a bigger fight,” said Ortiz. “I got pressed into it and all of a sudden it’s all over the Internet that Tito Ortiz won’t fight Machida. I’m just looking to get my final fight over with the UFC.”

Ortiz has headlined 17 of his 20 UFC appearances since he stepped into the Octagon in at UFC 13 “Ultimate Force” in May 1997. Energetic and captivating, Ortiz became the UFC’s light heavyweight champion at UFC 25 against future PRIDE Fighting Championships star Wanderlei Silva, then lost the title to Chuck Liddell (21-5) via a third-round TKO at UFC 66 in Dec. 2006.

Ortiz’s rematch against Liddell at UFC 66 in Dec. 2006 remains the largest UFC pay-per-view to date, with a reported $1,000,050 buys. The event also holds the North American record for paid attendance, with 12,191 fans shelling out $5,397,300. The 33-year-old said he’s banked over a million in his latest string of fights, but that half of his wages go to taxes and expenses.

Money has been at the root of a rocky relationship with Zuffa officials. In 2003, Ortiz held out on a pay raise from the Las Vegas promotion in favor of a movie role in a sequel for “The Crow.” Ortiz eventually returned to the fold, but the relationship remained strained.

Ortiz’s troubles with the promotion have been public fodder, particularly with his former manager turned UFC president Dana White, who has belittled the fighter and his girlfriend Jenna Jameson, the world’s most recognizable porn star, in numerous interviews.

The clash between promoter and fighter came to a head last fall, when Spike TV aired a special documenting a regulated boxing session the two were to have had in Las Vegas gym. Ortiz says he pulled out of the bout ahead of time, claiming compensation for the publicity stunt was never agreed upon. The cameras rolled with White waiting at the scales.

Ortiz said White's ill feelings towards him will most likely prevent the fighter from getting a shot at the UFC title again.

Nearing the end of his contract last year, Ortiz opted to go back to the table with UFC majority Lorenzo Fertitta. Subsequent negotiations staled.

“They said I wasn’t worth the money,” said Ortiz. “I was worth no more than what I’m getting paid now and I’m not a commodity to them anymore. I’m not as viable to them anymore. That was a sign of disrespect.”

Often at the center of controversy in the sport, bleached-blonde wrestler Ortiz, 33, has managed to stay in the spotlight despite his inactivity. After his heated July 7 draw with “Ultimate Fighter 3” reality TV series winner Rashad Evans (16-0-1) at UFC 73 “Stacked” in Sacramento, Ortiz (15-5-1) landed a stint on NBC’s “Celebrity Apprentice” alongside KISS frontman Gene Simmons and actor Stephen Baldwin. The show is now in its third week, with Ortiz donating his earnings to the St. Jude’s Childrens Hospital.

“UFC is caring so much about the brand itself,” said Ortiz. “They could care less about the fighters. Fighters are a dime a dozen. They’ll keep coming. Dana is really out for himself and the company. He doesn’t give a shit about the fighters.”
And yeah, UFC 84 takes place in Montreal.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:34 AM
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Arlovski is slated to fight Jake O'brian aparently, so thats Ortiz and The pitbull possibly gone from the UFC after these fights. Very interesting.
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Arlovski is slated to fight Jake O'brian aparently, so thats Ortiz and The pitbull possibly gone from the UFC after these fights. Very interesting.
mmmm... Arlovski - maybe. He just hasn't been the same since that second fight with Sylvia. But I think something will be worked out with Ortiz (...it always is...). The guy is still a big draw - and they've managed to put personal issues/feelings aside before.

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Krazy Horse Bennett is in jail again for domestic abuse, this time via strangulation.

Mark Coleman will be inducted into the UFC HOF at UFC 82.
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Old 01-22-2008, 05:44 PM
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Krazy Horse Bennett is in jail again for domestic abuse, this time via strangulation.
So he was actually out of jail, recently? This loser entertains me. "Via strangulation" sounds like the results for a fight. Did she tap? My bad...
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